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No XP from turning a tile

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Active Infusion grants 1 XP per point of infusion added, 2 XP per point of infusion removed from an opposing alignment, plus 3XP if fully uninfusing a tile and another 3XP if turning a tile over to their side.
- You spend 1 magic points, feeling the power flow from you and into this location. You feel this area has become attuned to the forces of Good. You gain 2 XP for your efforts. (2022-03-04 17:00:09).

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Re: No XP from turning a tile

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Sounds like you went from 0 -> 1, which isn't flipping. Going from 1 (Evil/Neutral) to 1(Good) would be 'flipping' it and would have a message about wresting it from another alignment. It also requires at least 2 MP/AP to do that.

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Re: No XP from turning a tile

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GreatCatatonic wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:18 pm Sounds like you went from 0 -> 1, which isn't flipping. Going from 1 (Evil/Neutral) to 1(Good) would be 'flipping' it and would have a message about wresting it from another alignment. It also requires at least 2 MP/AP to do that.

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Active Infusion grants 1 XP per point of infusion added, 2 XP per point of infusion removed from an opposing alignment, plus 3XP if fully uninfusing a tile and another 3XP if turning a tile over to their side.
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Re: No XP from turning a tile

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This looks like a weird edge case (doesn't seem that infusing a tile positively can ever grant 2xp according to wiki) plus a not clear enough wording in the wiki.
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Re: No XP from turning a tile

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To be clear, the XP bonus is granted when going from 1->0
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Re: No XP from turning a tile

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From my observations, the bonus xp is actually awarded on dissipate and there is also a limit to how many dissipate bonuses you can get in a 24-hour period.

- You spend 1 magic points, feeling the power flow from you and into this location. You feel the power in this area dissipate. You gain 7 XP for your efforts. (2022-02-19 14:53:15).

- You spend 1 magic points, feeling the power flow from you and into this location. You feel that this location has been wrested from its former attunement and become attuned to the forces of Good. You gain 7 XP for your efforts. (2022-02-19 14:54:26).

Same result on a dissipate vs. a dissipate+flip (possible with 1 MP thanks to Greater Infusion).

- You spend 1 magic points, feeling the power flow from you and into this location. You feel the power in this area dissipate. You gain 2 XP for your efforts. (2022-02-19 14:54:35).

Shortly thereafter, I realize I've hit the dissipate bonus XP limit for the 24-hour period.

Edit; As SharkyNebula says above. I will edit the wiki page this weekend if I have the time/remember to.
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Re: No XP from turning a tile

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Goliath wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:40 pm This looks like a weird edge case (doesn't seem that infusing a tile positively can ever grant 2xp according to wiki) plus a not clear enough wording in the wiki.
You will get x2 XP when infusing positively toward your alignment if the tile was of another alignment before you infused. So if the tile is 1 Evil, and Presto infuses with 30 Good, he will get x2 XP and the tile will be at 59 Good (Greater Infusion).
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Re: No XP from turning a tile

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Repth wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:46 pm
Goliath wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:40 pm This looks like a weird edge case (doesn't seem that infusing a tile positively can ever grant 2xp according to wiki) plus a not clear enough wording in the wiki.
You will get x2 XP when infusing positively toward your alignment if the tile was of another alignment before you infused. So if the tile is 1 Evil, and Presto infuses with 30 Good, he will get x2 XP and the tile will be at 59 Good (Greater Infusion).
While true, you cannot hit that bonus while using 1 AP/MP without greater infusion and setting your tile to your alignment (with 1 infusion, this only should happen if going from 0 to 1)
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Re: No XP from turning a tile

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Goliath wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:42 pm While true, you cannot hit that bonus while using 1 AP/MP without greater infusion and setting your tile to your alignment (with 1 infusion, this only should happen if going from 0 to 1)
Huh? What do you mean?
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Re: No XP from turning a tile

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Goliath wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:42 pm
Repth wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:46 pm
Goliath wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:40 pm This looks like a weird edge case (doesn't seem that infusing a tile positively can ever grant 2xp according to wiki) plus a not clear enough wording in the wiki.
You will get x2 XP when infusing positively toward your alignment if the tile was of another alignment before you infused. So if the tile is 1 Evil, and Presto infuses with 30 Good, he will get x2 XP and the tile will be at 59 Good (Greater Infusion).
While true, you cannot hit that bonus while using 1 AP/MP without greater infusion and setting your tile to your alignment (with 1 infusion, this only should happen if going from 0 to 1)
If the tile is at 1 Good and you infuse for 30 Non-Good and you don't have Greater Infusion, you will still get the x2 XP, the only difference is that the tile will be infused to 29 Non-Good instead of 59 Non-Good. There is no bonus for actually flipping from 0 to your alignment (but you still get x2 I think), there is only a bonus for dissipating, i.e., infusing and hitting 0 - even if the tile remains at 0 (which becomes the most efficient thing to do). I have taken my Wizard to level 27 so far almost exclusively with infusion, doing this exact thing. I'm sure just about everyone has seen and killed him by now :lol:

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Ok ok, here we go, did the thing! I think we are all on the same page just using different terminology lol, here it is spelled out for anyone we've confused along the way!
Tile was at 10 Neutral, I Greater Infused with 5 Good. (5 (x2 Flip Attempt)) + (5 dissipate) = 15 XP wrote:- You spend 5 magic points, feeling the power flow from you and into this location. You feel the power in this area dissipate. You gain 15 XP for your efforts. (2022-03-05 00:56:00).
Tile is now at 0. I Greater Infused with 1 Good. (1 (x2 Flip Attempt)) = 2 XP wrote: - You spend 1 magic points, feeling the power flow from you and into this location. You feel this area has become attuned (the flip attempt has succeeded i.e., no more x2 for infusing this tile) to the forces of Good. You gain 2 XP for your efforts. (2022-03-05 00:56:04).
Tile is now 2 Good. I Greater Infused with 1 Good. (1) = 1 XP wrote:- You spend 1 magic points, feeling the power flow from you and into this location. You feel this area become more strongly attuned to the forces of Good. You gain 1 XP for your efforts. (2022-03-05 00:56:10).
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